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NAFTALIN 06.02.2009 18:50

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Сообщение от Darth Bait (Сообщение 5479269)
Изменения только в балансе? Ничего нового не добавили?

Говорят теперь взорванная техника не исчезает(сам не проверял)
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Сообщение от Darth Bait (Сообщение 5479269)
Если можно поконкретнее, а то я скачал а поиграть не удается, работу надо доделать...

Вот список изменений,правда на английском.
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Current Change List

Increased the chances for melee sync-kills to occur.
Fixed an issue with all units gaining experience from kills. Only units that fight will gain experience. Heroes will still gain experience just by being near the fighting.
All infantry weapon damage reduced by 15% with the exception of anti-vehicle, sniper and artillery weapons.
All heroes health reduced by 10% to reflect global damage change.
Some melee units reduced in health by 10%.
Suppression units' damage at long range reduced, suppression against cover reduced a little.
melee_heavy damage to vehicle reduced to 0.5, from 1. Damage against building reduced to 0.5, from 1.
power_weapons_pvp damage to vehicle reduced to 0.15, from 0.25.
Plasma damage vs vehicles increased to .2 from .15
Flamer damage vs garrison increased to 3.5 from 2.5, vs heavy cover to 2.5 from 2.
Increased grenade damage modifier to garrison cover to 1.25 from 1.
Reduced grenade pvp damage modifier against generators to 1 from 1.5.
All vehicle deaths now generate heavy cover.
Melee special attacks no longer knockdown retreating units.
Increased uncapture time for requisition and power points to 15 seconds, from 10.
HQ health decreased to 10,000, from 15,000.
Requisition points are now updated to use a new system. Points are worth +10 upon capture, but this value now increases by +5 every 15 seconds up to a maximum of +35. When uncaptured, this value resets to +10.
Requisition points will no longer be reduced in resource rate in larger games.


Space Marines

Avatar and Carnifex are no longer instantly killed by drop pods.
Fixed an issue with space marine base turrets being able to rotate 360 degrees.


Tactical Squad

Missile Launcher reload time reduced to 6 seconds, from 8. Accuracy against large targets increased to 1, from 0.75. Damage reduced to 160, from 175.
Sergeant cost increased to 75/25 from 50/25.
Fixed an issue the with tactical marine sergeant having a shorter range than the rest of the squad which would cause him to run up to the enemy.
Plasma gun damage increased from 65 to 90.
Flamer damage increased from 12 to 14.
Tactical Marine HP increased from 300 to 350.
And They Shall Know No Fear damage reduction modifier reduced to 0.6, from 0.5. Knockback chance decreased to 50%, from 100%. Damage price increased to 1800, from 1200.


Dreadnought

Dreadnought assault cannon upgrade requisition cost increased to 100, from 45


Terminators

Terminator zeal cost reduced to 700, from 900.
Assault terminator zeal cost reduced to 700, from 900.


Scout Squad

Sniper rifle cost changed to 150/35 from 100/60, damage increased to 170 from 150.
Shotgun knockdown chance reduced to 15%, from 25%.
Infiltrate energy drain increased to 1.5/sec, from 1/sec.
Scout Sergeant detection radius set to 30.
Fixed a bug that was causing Frag Grenades to deal far less damage than intended.
Leader cost increased to 60/25 from 50/25
Fixed an issue with Scouts dealing more melee damage than they should have been.


Techmarine

Techmarine Heavy Bolter turret damage reduced to match the other turrets.


Assault Marines

Melta bomb fixed to affect Carnifex mobility.
Fixed an issue that caused Meltabombs to have a chance to miss their target.
Assault Marine Sergeant cost increased to 100/25 from 50/25
Assault Marine Sergeant health increased to 440, from 320.
Jump energy cost increased to 70, from 55.


Force Commander

Force commander teleporter pack armor req cost increased to 100.
Force commander 2 handed hammer special attack damage reduced to 30, from 50.
Force commander Flesh Over Steel stun duration reduced to 8 seconds, from 10.


Apothecary

Fixed an issue with the Heal ability not being able to target Terminators.
Apothecary Armor of Purity health increase reduced to 100.
Apothecary Armor of Purity heal cooldown reduction bonus reduced to 0.65, from 0.5.
Apothecary heal tuned to heal heroes more, heal over time effect reduced
Apothecary chainsword damage reduced to 33 from 38.
Apothecary Sanguine Chainsword damage reduced to 50, from 65.
Apothecary power axe damage reduced to 85, from 100.
Angels of death cost increased to 500 from 400, cooldown increased to 3 minutes from 1 minute.


Techmarine

Techmarine mine cost increased to 65 energy from 50.
Blessing of the Omnissiah recharge time increased to 150, from 50.


Predator

Predator Autocannon now has a 100% chance to generate cover when it hits the ground, up from 50%.


Eldar

Falcon and Fire Prism can now reverse.
Webway gate psychic might cost increased to 125 from 90.
Fixed an issue with the Fleet of Foot tool tip not saying that it causes a damage reduction.
Eldritch storm crater now generates light cover.


Guardians

Shuriken Catapult damage decreased to 12, from 14.
Warlock Leader cost increased to 65/15, from 50/15.


Howling Banshees

Banshee War Shout radius reduced to 8, from 15 and will no longer affect retreating units.
Banshee charge speed bonus reduced to 2 meters/s from 3 meters/s
Banshee Exarch leap damage reduced to 20 from 40.
Knockdown from Banshee leap removed.
Banshee Exarch gains knockdown on leap with Executioner upgrade.
Executioner special attack no longer affects allies.
Aspect of Banshee changed to provide Warshout and Exarch Executioner.
Exarch upgrade changed to provide squad speed increase.
Exarch upgrade cost increased to 85/15 from 50/15.


Rangers

Detection radius set to 30.
Long Rifle damage increased to 180, from 160.
Ranger cost decreased to 360/25.


Farseer

Farseer Armor of Asuryan requsition cost increased to 200 from 150.
Farseer Rune Armor health regeneration reduced.


Seer Council

Seer council zeal cost reduced to 600.
Seer council req cost reduced to 700.
Seer Council Singing spear damage reduced to 80 from 100.


Warlock

Warlock providence now affects Ethereal Slash cooldown.
Warlock energy drain on Merciless Witchblade reduced to 30 per hit, from 60.
Warlock Witchblade of Kurnous cost increased to 125/30.
Warlock Warp Throw power cost increased to 45.
Warlock Warp Throw recharge time increased to 45 seconds.


Warp Spiders

Fixed an issue that caused Haywire Grenades to have a chance to miss their target.
Warp Spider Deathspinner damage reduced to 21, from 25.
Warp Spider Exarch damage reduced to 34, from 37.
Warp spider Exarch damage modifier removed.
Exarch upgrade cost increased to 85/15.
Aspect of Warp Spider cost increased to 50/20.
Jump cost increased to 30 energy.


Warp Spider Exarch

Warpspider Exarch Phase Shift duration reduced to 10 seconds.
Warpspider Exarch Entangle duration reduced to 5 seconds.
Warpspider Heavy Gauge Filament energy drain increased to 4.5 per second from 3.5.
Spider's Brood cost increased to 350 requisition, from 125.
Jump cost increased to 30 energy.
Group Teleport cooldown increased to 90 seconds.


D-Cannon

Singularity ability on D-cannon fixed to deal damage at correct time.
D-cannon damage increased to 220 from 120, damage table changed.


Wraithlord

Wraithlord Shuriken Cannon damage reduced from 300 to 200.
Wraithlord Brightlance damage reduced to 100, from 170.
Wraithlord Brightlance upgrade requisition cost increased to 100, from 60. Power cost reduced to 40, from 60.
Wraithlord Shuriken Cannon upgrade requisition cost increased to 100, from 40.


Fire Prism

Dispersed beam area reduced to 10 meters, Focused beam damage increased to 200, reload decreased to 7 seconds from 8
Fire Prism shot now generates light cover instead of heavy cover.


Avatar

Avatar cost increased to 1000/250, hp increased to 7000 from 6000, leveling curve on hp decreased to 10% per level from 15%, build time increased to 90 seconds


Orks


Slugga Boyz

Slugga Nob cost increased to 75/25, from 50/25.


Mekboy

Mekboy Dakka Deffgun power cost increased to 30, from 20.
Mekboy Dakka Deffgun damage reduced to 350, from 450. Damage tuned such that the Mekboy's Deffgun does not ramp up as highly in damage at close range.

Banner Aura speed bonus reduced to .25, from .45
Banner Aura received damage modifier reduced to .94 from .91
Banner Aura received courage damage modifier reduced to .94 from .91
Banner Aura damage modifier reduced to 1.06 from 1.09
Supa Tuff Beam energy drain reduced to 3.5/sec from 7/sec.
Electric Shock energy drain reduced to 4/sec from 5/sec.


Warboss

Warboss Kustom Shoota changed to light weapon knockback.
Warboss Kustom Shoota knockback chance reduced to 10%.
Warboss Huge Choppa special attack changed to affect only enemy troops.
Warboss Boss Pole received courage damage modifier reduced to 0.5, from 0.25.


Stikkbommas

Stikkbomb damage reduced to 175, from 260.
Fixed a bug that was causing Stikkbombs to do far less damage than intended.
Stikkbomb explosions now generate light cover.


Stormboys

Stormboy Suicide attack now generates light cover.
Stormboy Nob cost increased to 75/25, from 50/25.


Kommando Nob

Kommando Camo Armor requisition cost increased to 100.
Kommando Kaboom recharge time increased to 20 seconds from 10.
Kommando Extra Equipment energy bonus reduced to 75, from 235.
Kommando Remote Detonation now generates light cover.
Boomtime explosion now generates light cover.


Kommandos

Kommando ambush ability range reduced to 35 meters from 50
Kommando shoota range reduced to 25, from 29, damage increased to 30, from 25.
Burna Bomb damage increased from 10 to 20, damage over time increased to 20 from 15.
Kommando Nob Leader detection radius set to 30.
Kommando Nob cost increased to 75/25, from 50/25.


Ork Waaagh shout ability

Waaagh shout speed bonus reduced to .07 from .1
Waaagh shout damage bonus reduced to 1.015 from 1.02.
Waaagh shout received damage reduction decreased to 0.985, from 0.98.
Waaagh shout received courage damage decreased to 0.996 from 0.985
Waaagh shout cooldown increased to 90 seconds from 60.


Wartrukk

Detection radius set to 30.


Looted Tank

Ork tank shot now has a 100% chance to generate cover, up from 50%.
Ork tank Boomgun now always generates cover.


Tyranids

Fixed a bug where the death of synapse creatures hurt the Tyranids around them twice instead of once.
Tyrannoformation tendrils now all generate light cover.
Fixed an issue with all Warrior and Zoanthrope synapse auras not increasing in effect with level. Additionally, the bonuses gained from leveling will stack with other synapse creatures.


Hive Tyrant

Brood Nest biomass cost increased to 225 from 175.
Hive Tyrant charge range increased from 10 to 15 meters, cooldown of charge decreased to 4 seconds from 6, speed increased to 4.5 from 4.
Health increased by 200.


Spore Mines

Spore mine explosion radius reduced to 8, from 15.


Lictor

Detection radius set to 30.
Flesh hook damage reduced to 180 from 230, can no longer target platforms.
HP increased to 600 from 500.
Damage decreased to 34, from 51.


Ravener

Ravener Devourer damage increased to 85 from 68, cooldown reduced to 1.4 from 1.8.
Fleet of Claw removed from Ravener squad.
Ravener Burrow now generates light cover.


Ravener Alpha

Ravener Toxic Miasma damage reduced to 15 per tick, from 20.
Catalyst damage taken reduced to 50% over 10 seconds, damage multiplier increased to 2.25, from 2.


Warriors

Increased damage of warrior melee with adrenal glands to 60, from 42.
Increased cost of warrior adrenal glands to 100/30, from 50/15.


Termagant

Termagant knockdown chance while under ranged synapse reduced to 25%, from 35%.


Zoanthrope

Zoanthrope reload reduced to 8 seconds, from 10.3
Fixed an issue with the Zoanthrope losing energy when leveling.


Carnifex

Increased cost of Venom Cannon to 100/30, from 30/10.
Increased cost of Barbed Strangler to 100/30, from 30/10.

Van Lock 06.02.2009 19:06

Цитата:

Сообщение от NAFTALIN (Сообщение 5480256)
Вот список изменений,правда на английском.

плюшек как обычно, накидали больше всего оркам, ну хоть термов не трогали и то радует)

Darth Bait 06.02.2009 21:09

NAFTALIN, большое спасибо!

Хм, все таки добавлять новые юниты будут с аддонами, эх...

Pinky-dReaMs 06.02.2009 21:52

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ну хоть термов не трогали и то радует)
им еще и стоимость понизили до 700 зила, охренеть. Я всё же не понимаю чем их убивать, и если орковские то нобы передвигаются медленно и не парят в принципе, пусть себе шагают пока я точки захватываю, то термосы с телепортом и просто жизни не дают.

CMogilko 07.02.2009 11:17

термы неплохо ложатся артиллерией, главное занять их рукопакой

Van Lock 07.02.2009 12:07

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Сообщение от Pinky-dReaMs (Сообщение 5481500)
им еще и стоимость понизили до 700 зила, охренеть. Я всё же не понимаю чем их убивать, и если орковские то нобы передвигаются медленно и не парят в принципе, пусть себе шагают пока я точки захватываю, то термосы с телепортом и просто жизни не дают.

все, щас 1 банка+ аватар режут ас.термов на ура.

CMogilko 07.02.2009 13:20

а нигде нельзя надыбать список бонусов, получаемых за ранги? и насколько они значительны

ZeroCoolDark 07.02.2009 14:35

CMogilko,
Я дошел до 10. Пока -броня скаутов, тактикал маринов и сержей. Результат - мои скауты> скаутов противника меньше рангом.

NAFTALIN 07.02.2009 15:50

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Сообщение от ZeroCoolDark (Сообщение 5484568)
CMogilko,
Я дошел до 10. Пока -броня скаутов, тактикал маринов и сержей. Результат - мои скауты> скаутов противника меньше рангом.

Лол.Чтоб ты знал,за ранг меняет только облик определенных юнитов,на боевые характиристики никак не влияет.И мои орки 30го ранга дерутся абсолютно так же,как орки игрока 1го ранга.
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Сообщение от CMogilko (Сообщение 5484115)
а нигде нельзя надыбать список бонусов, получаемых за ранги? и насколько они значительны

http://dowcodex.com/Info:Ranks -Список рангов и виды бонусов(которые,повторюсь,меняю только внешний облик юнитов).

ZeroCoolDark 07.02.2009 15:57

NAFTALIN,
Не знал, бывает. Ну что ж, так даже лучше, а то бы был явный дисбэланс.

Reeva 07.02.2009 22:12

Зацените скрин, на нем вверху стоит Хищник (Черных Храмовников), очень похож на хаоситский.
http://cdn.steampowered.com/v/gfx/ap...g?t=1233848674

For_Emperor 07.02.2009 22:28

Я почему то не вижу ничего похожего на Хаос.Хищник обыкновенный

Pinky-dReaMs 08.02.2009 07:30

Интересно, а с релизом ранги наши вайпнут?

Fio 08.02.2009 07:46

Кто гамал уже - есть эффектные добивания машины против машины?

ZeroCoolDark 08.02.2009 09:08

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Сообщение от Fio (Сообщение 5489372)
Кто гамал уже - есть эффектные добивания машины против машины?

У дреда когда громит банки бывает...

CMogilko 08.02.2009 10:45

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Сообщение от Pinky-dReaMs (Сообщение 5489351)
Интересно, а с релизом ранги наши вайпнут?

угу, она проходит в XLive под DoW2: Beta, как отдельная игра.

†Demonyx† 08.02.2009 11:27

Ура!!! Бука анонсировала релиз русской версии на 26 февраля! Надеюсь локализация будет достойна!
Просьба: обновить шапку!

Van Lock 08.02.2009 13:26

Цитата:

Сообщение от NAFTALIN (Сообщение 5484988)
Чтоб ты знал,за ранг меняет только облик определенных юнитов,на боевые характиристики никак не влияет.И мои орки 30го ранга дерутся абсолютно так же,как орки игрока 1го

а разве хп не растет? жаль..
в чем тогда смысл прокачки? или это только в бетке будит такой косяк?

Zloy Avatar 08.02.2009 13:39

Дайте пожалуйста объективное мнение о новом дове , Насколько игра оправдала себя перед первой частью,можно ли их вообще сравнивать или это уже совсем разные стратегии.
P.S. Единственное что я точно понял - так это то что релики как обычно делают расхождения с настолкой (я долго не мог врубиться как апотекарий может быть героем, да и с девастаторами что-то намутили-проще было бы их вооружать самим)
P.S.S. А вот ещё, как реализованна разрушаемость?

chuzar 08.02.2009 13:59

Обьективное мнение - игра великолепна, балан, графика, озвучка, стратегическая часть всё сделанно отлично и так же реализованно, единственно что по невозможно оценить это синг кампанию, щас постоянно ночи за мультеплеером просиживаю, даже на WoW забил, хотя это ещё тот наркотик. Сравнивать её с 1 ДоВ как стратегию уже не очень обьективно, так как разная концептция игр, и да это моно можно сказать разные стратегии, единственно что можно в них сравнить это на скольно они соответствуют беку. Даю игре смело 9/10 и обязательно пересмотрю своё решение после выхода оригинала и оценки кампании. Едиственно пока что очень ненравится это Games For Windows Live тот же Steam намного адекватней и юзабельней

Разрушаем реализованна так, есть укрытия за которые может прятатся пехота, пехота с тяжолым вооружением залпами может разрушать укрытия или стены, так же вся техника способна просто идти напролом через стены или укрытия проделывая для себя новые пути


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